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People of color/non-white fans of sci-fi/fantasy/speculative fiction, please stand up!

This roll call, from

deadbrowalking, is a response to yet another white SFF writer displaying ignorance of the long-standing presence of fans of color - not yet six months after RaceFail '09. You don't have to write anything lengthy or clever - this post is merely an attempt to get a (however incomplete) count of fans of color, after the nth time a white writer/reader said, "Wow, there's non-white people in SFF?"

And people wonder why we need to specify "'09" after "RaceFail" ... The ignorance is here, again, still.

This wasn't how I intended my first post on Dreamwidth to go. Ah well.

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orz orz orz

HI WELCOME TO DREAMWIDTH

Also, orz.

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Yes, lots and lots of orz.

(Thank you for the welcome.)

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For the most part (up till this mess) Bujold seems like a thoughtful, intelligent person. I really hope she learns from this (it sounds like she wants to, at least; not that that excuses her ignorance, but I feel like the only thing worse than ignorance is willful ignorance).

orz

SO HOW ARE YOU?

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Yeah, I hope her intention will translate into learning. It sure would be nice to have another big name SFF author get clueful (and, of course, good in the way that any human being understanding more about the oppressions of other human beings is good).

I was thinking more about what I wrote to

cypher below, about not particularly caring about Bujold's potential response/epiphany/apology - by which I mean, I'm not following comments with baited breath to see her, "Oh, I get it now!" Besides what I said about the risks of focusing so much attention on her, I think it's also because I feel any response/epiphany/apology will be necessarily incomplete.

yeloson has a great post explaining this idea. So I guess what I hope to see as "proof" of Bujold getting a clue is not a statement, but for her to walk away and think and start working against racism (and not just by throwing money at it /snide) and hopefully change things through her writing, her interactions with fellow authors, her interactions with fans. (Which, of course, means that there won't be an endpoint to the process.)

... So apparently I wanted to write more about RaceFail v2.0 than I did in my post, so I've been using comments for it. ;;;;;

Anyway! I am, er, okay despite stupidity abounding. I think, if there will be another Dancing With the Stars viewing tomorrow, I would really like to join and see fun-stupidity abounding!

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wow, that. augh. I read through some of the comments on the tor post on the day it blew up, but apparently bujold kept on getting worse after that. how are people still this stupid about these issues? :/

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Bujold is ... well, she entered one of the conversations here (anonymous comments but signed with her name) and apparently she's going to back off and do a lot of thinking. Which ... sure, whatever, I don't much care. (I am disturbed that various things keep making me twitchy about trying to read her books, which I largely enjoy, though.) I'm trying not to follow her too closely, because I want to keep from getting fixated on one prominent fuck-up, and the fuck-up-er's personal trajectory of enlightenment. It's why I stopped reading what Elizabeth Bear was saying during RaceFail '09 (v. 1.0?). I hope the attention doesn't get fixated on Bujold the way it got on Bear.

The first reason is that it's problematic to have one famous white person as the masthead of "the bad ones," when the opposition is necessarily made up of less famous, "faceless" brown people (+ white allies). The fuck-up-er still gets the privilege of being named, of identity, while the anti-racist forces don't (and there are direct consequences of this, such as the labelling of the anti-racist voices as "hordes," "mobs," and such). Secondly, it's an easy way for that person to become "The Racist," the other, not-one-of-us person who gets to be the scapegoat so other white SFF people can say, "whew, not me," or even worse, join the anti-racist criticism as a way to disclaim their own culpability and proclaim that they're on the "right side." Yes, having vocal support from allies is great, of course, but I worry that this might allow the (white) SFF community to dismiss this as The Thing Patricia Wrede and Lois McMaster Bujold did. And then SFF itself doesn't actually learn from it or change.

... which is my long-winded attempt, I think, to start formulating an answer to your question. I think this dynamic is at least partly responsible for why people are still committing the same mistakes individually, and why the community as a whole supports/allows for these mistakes.

/tl;dr

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And it's a good, thought-provoking answer! Thank you. I can definitely see the dangers there, the way that finding Someone to Blame means that other people can ignore their own complicity in the problem. A good reminder to take along in trying to respond to (and learn from, and not contribute to repeats of) this whole trainwreck of fail.

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I'm back on page 6. :)

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Awesome!

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