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Head on over to [insanejournal.com profile] oyceter's (LJ) post on alpha males in fiction for some great discussion. The original post is specifically about mainstream heterosexual romance novels, but of course the alpha male trope shows up in romantic relationships in all kinds of fiction. It's a great read for those coming from feminist perspectives but who enjoy fictional romance - and who know why I put that "but" in there.

I was particularly glad to find this in light of my earlier entry about my struggles with fictional portrayals of "romantic." Not only is it nice to find people who agree with me in a hey-I'm-not-alone way, but it helped clarify some things in my head.

Some highlights:

"[S]peaking of textual vindication, I think that is why I am ok with things in 'dark and disturbing yet really hot' that I normally would not be, because they are being portrayed as dark and disturbing and clearly not normal or romantic behavior."

"My idea of a dominant man is one who's strong, and strength does not equal 'inability to control oneself' in my eyes. That's weakness [...] Being tempted to lose control is hot, yes. Nearly giving in is hot, yes [...] But the point at which the control breaks is the point at which the line is crossed in my eyes."

"I actually see a whole lot of appeal in real alpha-male types. You know--the quiet strength, the steadiness and confidence, the leadership chops? I find that stuff deeply sexy. Which is part of why the badly-done alpha types we see so much of in fiction tend to drive me nuts."


I fell for the fictional alpha male when I was younger (and still do - see earlier entry), and find that infatuation one of the persistently troublesome tropes I took from a fiction-based education on romance. (Another one, for example, would be the idea that marriage/resolution was the end of the story.) The dynamic between the alpha male hero and passive heroine (who might occasionally be assertive, but often that's just temporary "spunkiness" and he still ultimately dominates) takes a lot of good things and twists them, or pushes them too far.

One example, as mentioned in the quotes above, is that being strong requires being "loud" about it - always pushing, always being the aggressor, basically showing one's strength by displaying a neon sign about it. The problem with that, of course, is that constant aggressing requires an object upon which to act. Like bullies who need a target to demonstrate their dominance upon, alpha males need to act against something. That "something" can be a threat to the heroine, which he gallantly protects her from - but it can also be the heroine herself, as he sweeps past her protests or reluctance and crosses her romantic or sexual boundaries.

Of course, when alpha males are being textually supported, this violation is portrayed as a good thing - which requires that the woman be in the wrong somehow. She's too prudish, or unnecessarily suspicious, or just shy and in need of someone to make her "open up." Then it looks like women don't know what they want, and they need men to strong-arm them into the "right" answer.

Strength and dominance are actually things that I do like - but the real, good kind. My favorite kind of strength is the kind that doesn't announce itself - that surprises you with its constancy and reliability. That doesn't put you down to put itself up. And while a partner's strength can mean I am being weak, or at least passive rather than active, there are ways to do this as equals - perhaps we take turns being the active and passive ones, or perhaps I choose to give up control, which is different from the alpha male who "convinces" the heroine to give up control by pestering her until she realizes he Knows Better and gives in. Someone who supports me in my judgment, rather than usurping it - who lends his strength, rather than attempting to replace mine - that's the kind of assertive male that I find attractive as a romantic hero.

I'd go on, but this is a topic I could talk about for forever and a half. Given a focus, I might get a more coherent entry out of it, but for now I'll just point you to the original discussion.
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posted by (anonymous) at 11:52pm on 02/04/2008
Did you ever read the "Dealing with Dragons" books? 'Cause King Mendenbar and Cimareen (or however you spell their names) had a pretty good relationship, I thought. It also didn't end with their marriage.

About your definition of strong, I guess it's a good thing you are dating who you are dating, then. He always struck me as a quietly strong sort of individual.
 
posted by [identity profile] sigelphoenix.insanejournal.com at 03:28am on 03/04/2008
I haven't read those books, but I'll keep an eye out for them. I'd love to read a book that actually follows a romance after the traditional resolution.

I am indeed quite lucky. He fulfills a lot of my wishes more than even I realized at first, including that type of strength.
 
I'd love to read a book that actually follows a romance after the traditional resolution.

For a while, Harlequin had a line called NEXT that did romances after marriage started but wasn't perfect (I'm not talking about the "arranged marriage" stories) and other such non-traditional romance set-ups. I was always intrigued by that line. Sadly, because it was non-traditional, it didn't last long in a market that is very, very formulaic and has a base audience that goes up in arms if you stray from the formula.

I've also noticed that romance tends to be about the hero (who is usually some level of angsty and emo and needs sexual healing), just from the POV of the heroine, which I learned after reading romance writer blogs and listening to them wax on forever about the hero, and hardly mention the heroine at all. For example most romance series (like Marjorie M. Liu's Dirk and Steele series, or Sherrilyn Kenyon's Night Hunter novels) follows a group of males who pick up chicks along the way ("This is Derrick's story," not "Emilie's story" or even "Derrick and Emilie's story"). The trouble in this set-up is that all of the focus and development is on the male, and the female gets little character development, and thus becomes a passive conduit to the alpha male whose only "change" through the novel is to go from not knowing/liking him to becoming his True and Forgiving Lurve. (And one of the reasons I like Liu's books is because the female characters are usually active, strong and pull their weight with the hero without quite crossing the hero/heroine romance boundary.)

Also, I like do "alpha" type heroes to an extent, but there's a fine line between "alpha" and "asshole", and a lot of romances cross it not just by their portrayal of the male, but also by character imbalance--the guy might be more alpha and less asshole if their women loves weren't written and treated as such pansy pushovers.

"Romances" that are mostly about the female, with the guy's having a strong , but not usually majority, presence (think Jennifer Crusie) are usually categorized as "women's fiction". If they are paranormal, that is a primary difference between female-oriented urban fantasy and paranormal romance; something else that took me a long time to figure out when I was trying to write paranormal romance, but couldn't figure out why it didn't "feel" like the paranormals I was reading. (I gave up on writing category genre romance, if you're wondering. Haha.)

... and... I think that's all I have to add to the conversation.
 
Thanks for the industry insights; it's interesting to see how books with similar levels and styles of romance can be categorized differently due to how strongly the heroine figures into it.

Also, I like do "alpha" type heroes to an extent, but there's a fine line between "alpha" and "asshole", and a lot of romances cross it not just by their portrayal of the male, but also by character imbalance--the guy might be more alpha and less asshole if their women loves weren't written and treated as such pansy pushovers.

Exactly. I think this is part of the textual support that can make or break an "alpha male" for me. If a confident, assertive guy slips into arrogance or excessive violence, I'm okay with that as part of a believable character. But I want the woman who's in love with him to recognize that as unhealthy, rather than just being swept up by his "manliness." Or, at least, the heroine can be ignorant if we're clear from the narration that they're unreliable characters. Basically, if an author understands that their characters are effed up, I'm okay with reading about effed up characters.
 
posted by [identity profile] candycentric.insanejournal.com at 04:08am on 03/04/2008
Wow. very interesting indeed. A few months ago, I read my first romance novel & became totally hooked. I almost read historical, because I enjoy them, but they all seem to be filled we these big, strong, overpowering 'he-man' types. Now, I like those in theory, but in a practical sense? Not my type. And as for the female partner thing? Pisses the hell out of me. Either she runs off, or gets scared, or has doubts or some silly thing. But, the alpha of course knows what's best! *rolls eyes* And he drags her back of talks her into or whatever, and we have the happily ever after.

Can't it ever be the guys fault? I mean, if the alpha has to be so gosh darn perfect, shouldn't the girl be strong and knowledgeable and perfect as well?

Lately, I almost seem to feel bad for the girl at the end of the book, and halfway wish she had found someone else. Weird huh?
 
posted by [identity profile] sigelphoenix.insanejournal.com at 04:46pm on 03/04/2008
Not weird to me! A lot of the "romantic" behavior of alpha males indicates unhealthy underlying patterns (violent jealousy, dominance against the female partner's wishes, etc.), and you can't help but think that, after the story ends, it's only a matter of time before those ugly behaviors rise to the surface. Not much happily ever after there.

From what I've noticed (though it's been a while since I've read a romance novel), the heroine is strong and knowledgeable and perfect - but only up to a point, and the hero is stronger and accomplishes things better than the heroine. (I remember one historical romance where the heroine stood up to her abusive ex-husband - she was even proficient with a bow - but the hero was the one who actually killed him.)

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