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posted by [personal profile] sigelphoenix at 09:25pm on 16/11/2011 under
I think I've felt terrified at the beginning of each session of dance class I've attended. I still do it, obviously, but there's always that surge of "What do you think you're doing here?" at the beginning.

(This was probably exacerbated by me watching the beginner hip-hop class that takes place right before my class starts, and waffling between, "I could maybe try doing that" and "ooh, that looks hard, I'd just make a fool of myself.")

That being said, Argentine tango went well tonight. I'm getting better at following, in that particularly devilish kind of following AT requires, which I think you can boil down to, "You don't have any idea what's coming next, HA!" I still had a lot of stops and starts with my various partners, but I think I am understanding how to respond to their leading - and thus responding - better overall. I danced with one guy who had taken the same class with me last session, and he led a move that we learned last session but hadn't yet gotten to this session (ochos) - I was caught off-guard and didn't pivot like I was supposed to, but I did actually turn and step in the places I was supposed to, just because my body responded to his lead.

It's funny; this stage of, "I generally know what my body is supposed to do based on what the lead does, yay!" came immediately with waltz, but I'm still clawing my way to it in AT. :P

Happily, some of our leads were students from the instructor's intermediate AT class, so they were stronger and smoother leads than the beginners (nothing against them - and I really noticed improvement in one of them - it's just fun to dance with people who know better what they're doing). There was one guy who, when I took my turn with him, made me feel like I was actually doing the dance I'd seen and admired - slow, but controlled, with bursts of sharp movement. There was a nice quality to his leading - it wasn't that he shoved me around, but more like there was a hairsbreadth of mild/gentle leading to show me what to do, so that I could go with him when he moved more firmly and we hit the step in a sharp, showy way (well, it'd be showy if I were more polished). This gives me hope that I still have the potential to learn the really "boom! pow!" kind of AT that I like to watch.
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posted by [personal profile] rivendellrose at 04:15pm on 17/11/2011
Darn, I have a dancing icon over on LJ, but nothing here.

It's funny; this stage of, "I generally know what my body is supposed to do based on what the lead does, yay!" came immediately with waltz, but I'm still clawing my way to it in AT. :P

I know exactly what you mean by this. I'm the same with waltz, which is super-easy and, at this point, more or less unconscious for me depending on my partner, and I'm about the same for East Coast swing. West Coast swing I still have a lot of trouble with, and the one time I tried salsa... well, let's just say it does not appear to be a very easy dance for me to pick up. I think if I could get a handle on the footwork I'd eventually be okay, but I still have to concentrate too much on the footwork to be very responsive.

As to what you've said about the leads from the instructor's intermediate classes.... eeeee. There's nothing more satisfying, I think, as a student dancer who's a follow than having a really good lead who knows what they're doing, even just in general "not afraid to lead properly" terms. It's such a feeling of release, and getting lost in the movements. ♥
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posted by [personal profile] sigelphoenix at 07:05pm on 17/11/2011
You know, salsa is coming fairly easily for me, but I think part of that is due to the instructor's strategy - she started us off doing the one-two merengue step, so we could focus on partner connection and learning moves without trying to keep track of the salsa step. I don't know how you were taught, but this approach might work for you.

It's such a feeling of release, and getting lost in the movements. ♥

I totally agree. One of the things I find so appealing about ballroom/partner dancing is the way it works like puzzle pieces fitting together - lead does x, follow does y, no words needed. I know dancing is supposed to be about freedom and expressing yourself and stuff, but honestly, I'm bad at improvising and figuring out how to move on my own. :P I'm more interested in the gracefulness and physical connection of it, and that's a lot easier to accomplish (to me) in partner dance than other kinds of dance.
 
posted by [personal profile] augustphoenix at 04:55pm on 17/11/2011
it's just fun to dance with people who know better what they're doing

A teacher is just someone who knows a little more than you do... or is at least willing to figure it out with you XD

I'm glad you're going forward with it, even when you have that terror feeling at the beginning.
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posted by [personal profile] sigelphoenix at 07:10pm on 17/11/2011
Yeah, I mean of course the instructor is the main source of my learning, since she does all the verbal instruction and walking us through the steps, etc. But there are a lot (a loooot) of subtler things that pop up when I dance with classmates, so any time I have a good lead I'm learning from them too.

I recognize the value of Eleanor Roosevelt's "do one thing that scares you every day" advice, but I'm too squeamish to actually follow it *every* day ... but I'm using that advice to bolster me when I do my scary thing each week. XD
 
posted by [personal profile] augustphoenix at 07:26pm on 17/11/2011
Out of curiosity, do you parse "do something scary" as something done socially/publicly? Or do you count things done in private that may be intimidating in its own way?
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posted by [personal profile] sigelphoenix at 08:56pm on 17/11/2011
Both, definitely. Like, I count my new knitting project as a mini-scary thing, since it doesn't risk a whole lot (time, money, and ego, but not a huge amount of them) but it's still a challenge to my skills and self-confidence.

For me, dancing is scary in both ways: the risk of embarrassing myself in front of strangers is public, but things like testing/expanding my physical strength and flexibility, wanting to capture/replicate the beauty of something I've always liked to watch, doing something "live" when I'm such a perfectionist ... that's more internal, and it matters less if other people see my success or failure there.
 
posted by [personal profile] augustphoenix at 09:01pm on 17/11/2011
Good, good.

(Can you tell I've been trying to do the same, just with different means?)
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posted by [personal profile] sigelphoenix at 09:22pm on 17/11/2011
I can, yeah! What I said about admiring the way you've taken on knitting - that was kind of about this idea. I mean, I respect your actual knitting skill, but I also think your approach/attitude about this, and other changes in your life, is what's really cool.
 
posted by [personal profile] augustphoenix at 09:25pm on 17/11/2011
Dora! Let us do scary things together!

Well, at least in spirit!

(But maybe also, sometime, something together!)
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posted by [personal profile] sigelphoenix at 11:15pm on 17/11/2011
We sort of do scary things together, in that knitting falls under "mini-scary" for me. XD (And at some point I may join you for a more ambitious activity like a retreat).

But I am open to other suggestions of possible scary things, and/or will act as cheerleader for other scary things you want to do. XD
 
posted by [personal profile] augustphoenix at 03:50pm on 18/11/2011
Perhaps sometime next year we'll have to arrange a dual-scary venture ^_^

Right now writing is my Big Scary.
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posted by [personal profile] sigelphoenix at 11:13pm on 18/11/2011
Just nothing physically dangerous, like bungee jumping. XD
 
posted by [personal profile] augustphoenix at 11:17pm on 18/11/2011
That's fair.

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