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It's funny sometimes, how subtle the line is between friendly and creepy teasing.

A delivery guy came to drop off a package for the office, and told me to "Sign and print your name ... and maybe your home phone number." It took me a second to process what he said, and by the time I looked up from signing to ask him to clarify, he said, "Just kidding." I laughed politely, and he added, "I just wanted to steal that smile." (He paused for a second before the word "steal"; I think he was searching for a word. He had the slight accent of someone whose first language is Spanish or maybe Italian.)

I didn't feel outright uncomfortable. The guy was definitely skirting the line, but didn't cross it in my mind, and I'm trying to figure out just why.

Here are the things that were counting against him:
-Older guy, maybe late 30s or 40s. I think my age (early twenties) is pretty easy to tell, and while it's not as bad as an older guy saying the same thing to a teenager, it's still not very okay to do.
-I couldn't tell immediately that he was joking, either through tone of voice or him saying "Just kidding" right after he made the joke.

On the other hand, some things tipped it over into the non-creepy side:
-Public setting, brightly lit office, not isolated from other people.
-His body language was casual; he neither got too close to me nor carried himself in a way that seemed suspicious skeevy.
-He backed off quickly when I smiled but didn't say anything, and didn't push for a further response.

I do think that it can be difficult to try flirting or bantering with someone without slipping into creepy/harassment territory. (Which does not mean I agree with the entitled whiners who complain that anti-sexual harassment efforts have ruined dating. All it means is that you need to pay attention to the other person's responses, and back off or apologize if necessary.) My own experience might have been read quite differently by someone else.
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posted by [identity profile] kyonkun.insanejournal.com at 10:40pm on 30/01/2008
I choose the "what" option, mainly based on personal experience at my work. We have a person who makes deliveries who used to dance along that "pay-attention-to-you-to-almost-the-point-of-uncomfortableness" that you've described. At first I thought it was to select people, including myself, and it was kinda flirting but not really. He'd ask how you were, strike up conversation about random topics, compliment various aspects such as clothes and hair. This didn't just happen at delivery time (although it's more noticeable because really, all you want to do is sign for the damn package) but also when he passed you in the hallways.

Then, I noticed he did that to EVERYONE. Guys included. In the exact same tone and manner. So if he was flirting with me, he was flirting with all.

8D
 
posted by [identity profile] sigelphoenix.insanejournal.com at 06:15am on 31/01/2008
Yeah, it's all about context. Both the context of the initiator (do they act like this to everyone, or just people of a certain gender, people who are quiet and don't protest, etc.) and of the other person (do they respond positively and/or reciprocate).

I'm much more comfortable around guys who are extra-friendly with both men and women, because it a) means that they're not attempting to sexually harass women and b) are likely not homophobic. Double win!
 
posted by (anonymous) at 03:53pm on 31/01/2008
The uncertainty of pick up lines and flirting is one reason why I avoid that sort of thing in general. I prefer to become friends with someone and see if it goes further (it hasn't yet).

Also, the advertisement on the left of your entry has been for a dating service both times I loaded the page (reading and commenting). I find that ironic, especially since they featured images of women that emphasized nothing more than their body. It makes you wonder...
 
posted by [identity profile] sigelphoenix.insanejournal.com at 09:05pm on 01/02/2008
Yeah, I'm not sure how well I'd do if I ever tried picking someone up. :P It is easier when you know someone well and can gauge their reactions better.

I get the same ad. *sigh* It is relevant - just not in the right *way*.

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